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Post by mockchoc on Feb 23, 2020 8:54:30 GMT 2
I'm not on here much as you know but took a quick look about and didn't see anything about the virus and how it is affecting you travellers and where you go or don't go. Sorry if I missed it. Just wondering what others are thinking travel wise. We have canned our overseas plans and doing a month on the road down the coast of Queensland and New South Wales then back up inland. Brother and wife are off to Vietnam in a couple of weeks. I would be cancelling. Thoughts please from my seasoned traveller friends???
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Post by Voy on Feb 23, 2020 16:27:12 GMT 2
Hi Mockers ! I agree about Asia - and there is no way in hell you'd get me on a cruise ! I'm planning a quick trip to Mexico at the beginning of April.. and will cancel if "it" appears in Mexico ... dammit.
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Post by auntieannie on Feb 23, 2020 17:12:28 GMT 2
Hey, Mochock! so, Jeffy and the Mrs have cancelled a trip to Asia, Baz and Mrs Faz are currently in Asia and seemingly unaffected (may it continue to be so until they are safely back in Britain and let's hope that by then all this has calmed down). Kerouac is moaning the fact he can't take advantage of the undoubtedly cheaper prices and empty areas, Tzarine noticed that chinatown is empty, although there aren't any cases in the US that we know of.
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Post by tzarine on Feb 23, 2020 17:31:06 GMT 2
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Post by auntieannie on Feb 23, 2020 18:07:46 GMT 2
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Post by tzarine on Feb 23, 2020 18:10:43 GMT 2
thanks, annie!
i seen both
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Post by auntieannie on Feb 23, 2020 19:38:39 GMT 2
and I think this may be completely up Slow's street: let's prepare |
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Post by slowcoach on Feb 24, 2020 11:11:57 GMT 2
auntieannie ,
I am not sure I quite understand their overall point of view: all the stuff about Risk = Hazard + Outrage on Sandman's website and also on Wikipedia Outrage factor.
But the idea that we should all be gently preparing for disruption is I think valid.
It may turn out that the disruption harms and even kills more people than the disease does.
So get those prescriptions filled and start to provision for a siege.
FWIW We always are well provisioned and I have plans for a temporary cessation of civilisation.
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Post by Baz Faz on Feb 24, 2020 14:01:52 GMT 2
We are in Myanmar at present which has no cases at all. Tomorrow we fly to Bangkok for a couple of days. Thailand has a number of cases but so does Britain. Do you think it is wise of us to fly back to Britain on Friday? My daughter lives in Brighton which has cases and we are due to go there in April.. Should we cancel our Brighton trip?
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Post by tzarine on Feb 24, 2020 19:42:15 GMT 2
baz
i wouldn't think your brighton stop would be a problem
take your hand sanitizer
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Post by wikki on Feb 24, 2020 20:51:41 GMT 2
Now, parts of Italy ( incl. Venice) are affected by the Virus. The Italian goverment reacts pretty hard/strict on it I think. I would not have expected that they cancel the carnival festivities.
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Post by rikita on Feb 24, 2020 21:55:44 GMT 2
a colleague of mine has a journey to italy planned, and he was wondering today if he should cancel. he is going much further south than the areas where there are cases, so far, though, so he said he is probably going to go. he said he is not worried about the virus itself, just wouldn't want to end up being quarantined ...
i suppose i'd currently avoid traveling to china and northern italy ... else, just keep track of how things are developing ...
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Post by tzarine on Feb 24, 2020 23:54:01 GMT 2
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Post by Netsuke on Feb 27, 2020 4:09:21 GMT 2
I was in Burma and Singapore in December and January. I'm glad I booked a river cruise in early January rather than a month later, because I had five nights in Singapore on the way home.
Fortunately the first case of the corona virus was reported in Singapore on 23rd January and I left on the 24th (January).
Lucky for me I wasn't there a week later.
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Post by Baz Faz on Feb 27, 2020 5:01:55 GMT 2
I have just been reading the South China Morning Post (as one does) and it says plane movements at Hong Kong airport are down by three quarters.
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Post by auntieannie on Feb 27, 2020 18:13:04 GMT 2
My thoughts are that to try and avoid transmitting it, we should wash our hands well and often, with water and soap. We should try and avoid touching our face, we should generally keep our distances from people, and we should sneeze in a tissue (then dispose of it in a bin)or in our elbow if nothing else is available.
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Post by rikita on Feb 27, 2020 21:53:24 GMT 2
i think any of these precautions are useless as long as you live closely with someone who thinks washing hands is a waste of time (and is all morning in a room full of people who probably all think the same thing) and who enjoys coughing or sneezing at your face on purpose, just to annoy you ... but then, things could very well be alright ...
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Post by auntieannie on Feb 28, 2020 0:00:17 GMT 2
yes, riki. that is agreed.
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Post by shrjeff on Feb 28, 2020 7:07:11 GMT 2
israel has basically closed its borders... most flights are cancelled and our travel agent is going on a month's leave without pay as of sunday, march 1st as nobody is making new travel reservations - just cancelling existing ones... she described the feeling at the agency as panic  the only positive thing is that yesterday our el al flights to bangkok next week were cancelled! so we won't have to pay a cancellation charge... |
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Post by sophie on Feb 28, 2020 7:32:29 GMT 2
Yikes.. poor travel agent. She still has bills to pay...
anyways.. I suspect there will be some fabulous travel desks after the virus has done its damage.
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Post by tzarine on Feb 28, 2020 8:07:30 GMT 2
sophie
so true about the deals
also fascinating to travel after a troubled time
we went to japan the summer after the tsunami 2011. tokyo was so empty. the ginza lights were dimmed. shopkeepers were so happy we were browsing their stores.
annie,
washing our hands, taking precautions
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Post by shrjeff on Feb 28, 2020 14:14:38 GMT 2
sat with her this morning to tie up the trip cancellation... she explained that as the company is laying her off she gets unemployment payments... now that she won't be working during passover - her mother, who lives in tiberias, has asked her to come down and help her clean for the holiday!
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Post by Voy on Feb 28, 2020 15:35:26 GMT 2
well, this oldie has taken the precautions - got all prescriptions refilled, and laid in some canned goods, pasta, etc - I'm good for at least a month, if god forbid, some kind of quarantine hits.
at the pharmacy the girl at the counter said, "oh, we're out of face masks", at which I said that the kind they have aren't any good anyway = and she laughed and agreed !
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Post by slowcoach on Feb 28, 2020 16:30:27 GMT 2
Go Voy,
It isn't panic buying until you leave it too late. 
Our village is by nature well prepared. Generators (several small portable, one medium transportable), wells, boreholes, chickens, pigs, livestock, wild deer, preserved meat (hams/sausages), stored vegetables, wood (forest), forage (local knowledge), stoves, chainsaws, tractors, guns. Only the single metalled access road running through a boulder infested countryside and easily blocked.
Not that I have thought about it, mind!
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Post by Baz Faz on Feb 28, 2020 17:07:05 GMT 2
We have had several emails from people hoping we are safe. We were in Myanmar which has no recorded cases of corona virus, and a month in Thailand. Thailand has 41 recorded cases, the same as France. I am writing this in Toulouse airport befor.e our flight back to Britain. France has corona virus as does Britain but no one has asked if we feel safe going there.
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Post by Netsuke on Feb 28, 2020 17:49:54 GMT 2
When I see this thread, I read it as carnivorous!
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Post by tzarine on Feb 28, 2020 18:13:37 GMT 2
voy
funny about masks. we have them @ home for when i clean & the dust is out.
tzar brought home tins of soup
i'll get some extra ramen, then
oh, do i need a machete when the bullets run out?
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Post by slowcoach on Feb 28, 2020 20:56:19 GMT 2
You'll need one for the Concrete/Asphalt Jungle.
Don't forget the tinfoil hats!
Has there been a specific recommendation as to a choice of disinfectants?
We have, as we always do, alcohol (denatured ethanol), and sodium hypochlorite (bleach/sterilizing fluid). Sadly we are right out of absinthe which has a useful dual purpose.
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Post by tzarine on Feb 28, 2020 23:23:28 GMT 2
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Post by Netsuke on Feb 29, 2020 3:53:05 GMT 2
Absinthe - the green fairy.
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