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Post by outside cat @wino on May 6, 2014 23:45:17 GMT 2
I think he should be purchasing about 25 years supply of Vaseline....
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Post by Grecian on May 7, 2014 20:00:41 GMT 2
You think he's Guilty then? I must admit, i do as well..
No news here since the Trial started again and his DE FENS have had a crack...
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 8, 2014 0:33:32 GMT 2
He is guilty of being a fuckwit 24/7......and possessing a gun.......
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Post by Grecian on May 8, 2014 20:07:26 GMT 2
Mmmmmm Very observant.
Do you have anything to say about the ongoing Court case?
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 9, 2014 1:19:14 GMT 2
Yes........not sure who told him to wear glasses walking into the court....does it make him look less guilt?
Evidence wise he is fucked and I don't think anything I have seen will create reasonable doubt for 'me lady'
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Post by Grecian on May 9, 2014 20:05:39 GMT 2
I agree..
It really doesn't matter that he cried afterwards etc..
But it is still difficult to prove that he knew that she was in the bog when he fired.
I've seen the 'mock up' of the appartment and the bog but really want to know if there was another way out of the bog apart from the door. If the only way out was the door, then he is Fucked....
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 13, 2014 23:48:08 GMT 2
Trial news has gone quite here as well.......Rolf Harris has taken over.........
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Post by Grecian on May 14, 2014 20:34:27 GMT 2
What a load of Shite!
So now the DE FENS are calling that he has some kind of Mental Problem that makes him shoot Females rather than run away because of his lack of legs!
This Mental Evaluation is going to take a month....
Geesus! What are the DE FENS going to try next?
This Trial was set for 4-6 weeks and with this latest thang going to take > month...
I just wonder sometimes about a Third World Country like South Africa even being able to handle a simple Trial like this one..
It looks like they are failing already...
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Post by Gobsie on May 15, 2014 6:56:07 GMT 2
*sigh* the defense did not call any kind of mental anything, in fact they objected to psychiatric evaluation. It is the duty of the court to admit someone for observation in the event that they suspect any kind of mental illness so that it cannot be raised on appeal. If he is not evaluated and either diagnosed or cleared now then he can raise it at appeal and any conviction and the judges ruling can be overturned. Our law says 'it is the duty of the court' to ensure a free and fair trial and IF it is hinted at that he has any kind of mental disorder then that needs to be taken into account.
Get your facts straight before you diss our system, thank you very much
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Post by Grecian on May 15, 2014 21:08:47 GMT 2
Hurrah! I thought me mentioning a 'Third World Country' would have you Posting!
Did not the DE FENS bring up this unheard of Mental Situation so they had to look into it?
So you think that M'Lady and her 2 Observers thought that Oscar should have a month out for Evaluation - M'Lady made that decision and not the DE FENS??...
I'm sorry but this whole sorry affair should have been over within a Month but because it is Oscar, it will drag and drag on....
Do you think that a Black would be afforded such time and money over a case under the same circumstances? No, I really do not think so..
In England, this 'new Evidence' would not be allowed as it should have been brought up Pre Trial - That is why Trials take so long to get the Court - So we can just have a fair hearing on the salient points and the results of this Bollocks would be known to the Court already...
It looks like Oscar and his Team are squirming and struggling and it may well be the last throw of his dice to prevent a Murder verdict.
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Post by Grecian on May 15, 2014 21:10:23 GMT 2
(By the way, joking apart, you are looking good in that pic!...)
carry on...
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Post by Gobsie on May 16, 2014 6:19:29 GMT 2
Um, out justice systems work differently, I don't expect you to understand how ours works if you don't expect me to understand how yours works.
A black, as you call them (there are poor whites too, fyi) would have been given legal aid.
The defence was trying to prove that he reacts differently to able bodied people, in evidence in chief they did not bring new evidence at all, in cross examination the prosecution 'stumbled upon' the mental diagnosis and thereofre made a petition for him to be evaluated mentally to ensure that he is unable to use it at a later stage or under appeal.
Yes, the UK system is much quicker after all is got that murdering Devani bloke extradited in not time at all. Hardly any delays or mental observation or appeals, quick and efficient.
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Post by Grecian on May 16, 2014 21:37:18 GMT 2
Does Oscar get Legal Aid?
So it's the DE FENS that brought up this idiotic theory that 'he reacts differently to able bodied people' and not M'Lady?
Like I said above all this stuff would have been sorted out Pre Trial here..
That 'Devani Bloke' is as Guilty as eff but his Lawyers have played the System and got massive remmuneration as a result.
He had 'Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome' from organising the Execution of his Wife??...That's a new one to me!
Can we at least agree with the Fact that the Lawyers are the only Winners - again?...
Oscar is on Borrowed Time...
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Post by Grecian on May 20, 2014 19:53:35 GMT 2
And so poor old Oscar starts his 30 days of Tests to see if he's got this very little known affliction called Generalised Anxiety Disorder (Gad).
Looks like the DE FENS first mentioned it and then M'Lady went with the flow but then the Prosecution insisted on it so it would put paid to any appeal..
Can you make any sense over that or are all Parties struggling a tad to make their case stick?
"Generalised Anxiety Disorder is a medically-recognised, long-term condition People with Gad feel anxious on most days and worry about a wide range of issues It is thought to affect around one in 25 people at some point in their lives and is more common in women than in men Symptoms vary - making it tricky to diagnose People with Gad may have difficulty concentrating, feel tired and irritable, feel sick, dizzy or sweaty and experience aches and pains Gad tends to run in families, can follow stressful events, and may be linked to chemical imbalances in the brain The main treatments include using talking therapies, relaxation techniques and medication"
You sure know what I think on that Bollocks!
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 20, 2014 23:11:10 GMT 2
Good pre-emptive move by the judge though...
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Post by Grecian on May 21, 2014 19:51:06 GMT 2
Pardon?
Can you explain why it is a "Good pre-emptive move by the judge though..." so I know that you actually know what is going on and not just trying to get your Post Count up.
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 22, 2014 2:04:06 GMT 2
It will negate a potential grounds for appeal if it can be shown those considerations were taken into account during the trial, subsequent conviction and then applying for leave to appeal on mental state (it is easy to say you are mad to today but hard to apply it retrospectively). I think he will appeal on a lot of the forensic evidence presented.
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Post by Grecian on May 22, 2014 20:21:35 GMT 2
Whatever...
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 23, 2014 0:17:48 GMT 2
don't ask questions you dullard.......
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Post by Grecian on May 23, 2014 19:51:48 GMT 2
Pardon?
"Me"...a 'Dullard'??
You are the Cock Breath who has nothing original to say - you just follow Sheep...
You really do bore me in the extreme...
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 28, 2014 1:34:46 GMT 2
Funny a mate just called me a cock breath on a text..........must be true then!
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 28, 2014 1:36:20 GMT 2
For me boring will be the round ball in Brazil........thank eff for us its only on one free to air channel.....
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 28, 2014 1:36:33 GMT 2
DP
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Post by Grecian on May 28, 2014 20:09:00 GMT 2
Cock Breath!
Come on! Tell me what's going down - apart from Oscar - as regards his trial?!
Are they still 'evaluating' the Murderer?...
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 28, 2014 23:38:42 GMT 2
I guess they would be into week 2 of the evaluation and no 'leaks' to the media which is surprising
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Post by Grecian on May 29, 2014 19:35:25 GMT 2
I assume that they have him strapped down in a chair with a straight jacket on and hitting him around the face with a wet cod?
What are they trying to evaluate, again?...I've lost track of it!
Oh yes! It's to determine whether he realised the seriousness of his Act/Shooting - whatever that means...
The whole Trial is becoming a Farce...
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 30, 2014 1:14:26 GMT 2
Unlike Rolf Harris, eff he said some stupid shit in the box yesterday...
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Post by Grecian on May 30, 2014 19:44:58 GMT 2
Rolf is a Crim but I will defend him anyway...
He certainly didn't kill anyone and so many of these cases are about Compensation Payments.
Rolf probably Goosed a Laydee in 1975 and now he's getting hammered for it.
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Post by outside cat @wino on May 31, 2014 4:06:41 GMT 2
I think Rolf is a degenerate.....he is yours now
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Post by Grecian on May 31, 2014 20:26:28 GMT 2
I'll accept Rolf as an Honourary Brit any day of the week!
He's funny!
As regards this whole 'Abuse' thang involving Jimmy Saville, Max Clifford, Stuart Hall and now Rolf, the following is the funniest thing I've heard regarding it!
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