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Ebola
Oct 14, 2014 20:04:35 GMT 2
Post by welle on Oct 14, 2014 20:04:35 GMT 2
Dr Sacra.
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Ebola
Oct 14, 2014 20:27:24 GMT 2
Post by welle on Oct 14, 2014 20:27:24 GMT 2
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Ebola
Oct 15, 2014 5:06:31 GMT 2
Post by shrjeff on Oct 15, 2014 5:06:31 GMT 2
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Ebola
Oct 15, 2014 18:27:14 GMT 2
Post by welle on Oct 15, 2014 18:27:14 GMT 2
Second healthcare worker at Dallas hospital infected. I wish I could figure out why they will not transfer the 2 patients to one of the 4 specialized containment facilities.
5 people have been or are being cared for by those units (Emory and Nebraska), so far no infections.
1 patient treated at Dallas hospital, 2 new infections.
Of course transfer itself can be risky-but if it works from Africa it should be possible to do this from Dallas. The CDC has sent a team to Dallas to help out which is great. And I'd love to see an 'abundance of caution' applied by transferring the patients. People's lives are at stake.
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Ebola
Oct 15, 2014 23:58:38 GMT 2
Post by rikita on Oct 15, 2014 23:58:38 GMT 2
read an interesting article today not about the medical aspect of it all, but about an increase in racism (or maybe rather another expression of racism) due to some people assuming every one who is from africa must have ebola ... apparently, for example, there have been cases of kids being sent home from school because they were coughing and the teachers thought - well not sure what they thought ... well the article is in german, for those who can read it: www.taz.de/Ebola-befoerdert-Rassismus/!147688/
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 3:10:35 GMT 2
Post by Voy on Oct 16, 2014 3:10:35 GMT 2
just saw a headline that one of those from Dallas is transferred to Emory. good.
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 7:24:45 GMT 2
Post by welle on Oct 16, 2014 7:24:45 GMT 2
The current tally of evacuations/cases outside of Africa: US: 2 US health care workers infected went to Emory in Atlanta-recovered. 1 US health care worker Dr Sacra was evacuated to Nebraska and has recovered 1 health care worker currently being treated at Emory in Atlanta-status unknown. 1 journalist being treated in Nebraska-condition stable 1 Liberian tourist in Dallas hospital-died 1 health care provider in Dallas infected during care for initial Dallas patient-condition stable 1 health care worker (2nd one in Dallas) infected during care for initial Dallas patient-admitted in Dallas, transferred to Emory-early stages of illness France:1 French nurse evacuated to France. Treated in Paris with japanese flu medication Faripiravir that is not approved yet except by special permit-discharged England: 1 British nurse flown to England-recovered. Germany: 1st Senegalese WHO health care worker hospitalized around Aug 27th in Germany- discharged 2nd Ugandan pediatrician infected in Sierra Leone being treated inFrankfurt-condition unkown. 3rd patient Sudanese UN worker flown to Leipzig from Liberia-died Spain: 1 priest flown to Spain and died shortly after arrival. 2nd priest flown to Spain from Sierra Leone, died. 1 Nurse taking care of one of the above patients in Madrid just contracted ebola. Condition unknown Norway:1 Norwegian doctor working for Doctors without Borders infected in Sierra Leone has been evacuated to Oslo-condition unknown So to sum it up 17 people evacuated or became ill outside of Africa. 4 deaths6 discharged7 being treated/status unknown3 secondary infections of health care workers
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 7:29:45 GMT 2
Post by welle on Oct 16, 2014 7:29:45 GMT 2
read an interesting article today not about the medical aspect of it all, but about an increase in racism (or maybe rather another expression of racism) due to some people assuming every one who is from africa must have ebola ... apparently, for example, there have been cases of kids being sent home from school because they were coughing and the teachers thought - well not sure what they thought ... well the article is in german, for those who can read it: www.taz.de/Ebola-befoerdert-Rassismus/!147688/ Hm, article doesn't open for me. I could imagine a lot of misinformation out there.
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 8:16:19 GMT 2
Post by rikita on Oct 16, 2014 8:16:19 GMT 2
weird, when i click on it, i can't open click on it i can't open it either, but when i go to edit the post it is all correct ...
yes, i think misinformation is one issue, and then also that there are people who will use any catastrophe to further their agenda - like if someone is already against immigrants anyway, they'll now add "and they are all going to infect us with ebola" to their arguments.
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 13:14:37 GMT 2
Post by slowcoach on Oct 16, 2014 13:14:37 GMT 2
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 13:49:51 GMT 2
Post by happytraveller on Oct 16, 2014 13:49:51 GMT 2
Some people are just so incredibly stupid !
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 14:57:46 GMT 2
Post by rikita on Oct 16, 2014 14:57:46 GMT 2
yes, that worked. thanks, slowcoach!
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Ebola
Oct 17, 2014 17:07:26 GMT 2
Post by slowcoach on Oct 17, 2014 17:07:26 GMT 2
I have heard that "60 Minutes" is preparing a piece on Ebola that might contain information about what long term preparations were put in place regarding treatments and vaccines. If that is correct, and it gets aired it is likely to feature the work done by the military as part of its bio-warfare, bioterrorism programmes. Were it not for these prgrammes there would not be much at all I suspect.
I can find nothing on their website but it might happen, or it might well not. It is just a rumour, don't bank on it.
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Ebola
Oct 17, 2014 17:59:53 GMT 2
Post by shrjeff on Oct 17, 2014 17:59:53 GMT 2
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Ebola
Oct 17, 2014 18:06:36 GMT 2
Post by slowcoach on Oct 17, 2014 18:06:36 GMT 2
In case it is not obvious. the US, UK, and France, have long standing relationships with Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea respectively. It is natural that these countries should engage bilaterally in such a crisis. Not sure what France is doing mind you.
Also, only Liberia is a predominately Christian country, the other two being Islamic. I believe that the Red Crescent as well the Red Cross are active although the overwhelming response has been by MSF, about 700 beds out of around 1000.
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Post by sophie on Oct 18, 2014 7:15:35 GMT 2
Sierra Leone is both Christian and Moslem.
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Ebola
Oct 18, 2014 13:12:19 GMT 2
Post by slowcoach on Oct 18, 2014 13:12:19 GMT 2
Which is predominant?
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Ebola
Oct 18, 2014 14:41:57 GMT 2
Post by tiltedflipcurves on Oct 18, 2014 14:41:57 GMT 2
One of the infected Dallas nurses is now being treated here in Bethesda, Maryland. We're keeping calm and carrying on.
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Ebola
Oct 18, 2014 14:58:45 GMT 2
Post by trentt on Oct 18, 2014 14:58:45 GMT 2
Not to be evil and misanthropic, but I think it might eradicate much of the human race, which will be a great thing for Earth and the other species inhabiting it.
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Post by sophie on Oct 18, 2014 17:23:46 GMT 2
Slow coach, when I worked there, it was more Christian, but that may have changed since the war.
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Ebola
Oct 18, 2014 17:46:09 GMT 2
Post by slowcoach on Oct 18, 2014 17:46:09 GMT 2
Sophie,
According to Wikipedia
Lots of figures to pick from!
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Post by sophie on Oct 19, 2014 2:22:39 GMT 2
Interesting, slow coach.. Lots of choices. I think there is quite a bit of 'movement' depending on what is going on politically in various regions.
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Ebola
Oct 19, 2014 10:01:43 GMT 2
Post by slowcoach on Oct 19, 2014 10:01:43 GMT 2
Sophie,
Can you say whether the Islamic community are Sunni/Sufi or more orthodox (if that is the right word) Sunni, or Shia? It could make a difference regarding help from the Gulf States, I think. I know little about such things, it is just a thought.
At such times there is a call to the general community of nations but it is perhaps more realistic to look towards those with historical or cultural/religious ties.
Obama is evidently annoyed about the lack of assistance in general and I suspect he has fears regarding what failing states could engender in that region. When times are bad it may be possible to create or import religious strife where it wouldn't occur otherwise.
If it gets a lot worse, which seems likely, anyone who can may be tempted to flee the region, taking skills, wealth and the virus with them. I hope that preparations are underway for the eventuality that we may have to assist with or provide governance for these countries.
Am I being too bleak? I hope so.
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Post by sophie on Oct 19, 2014 15:54:02 GMT 2
Slow coach, I really don't know which group is (was) there.. The Muslim folks I worked with were very discreet about where their religious loyalties lay, and the Christians were mostly catholic.
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vinnyd
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Ebola
Oct 20, 2014 0:37:33 GMT 2
Post by vinnyd on Oct 20, 2014 0:37:33 GMT 2
African Muslims are almost certainly Sunni (aside perhaps from some immigrants from the subcontinent), but not necessarily very orthodox as seen from, say, a Saudi point of view.
I haven't read most of this thread. A friend just told me that statistically speaking, an American's chances of contracting ebola were the same as the chances of getting married to Larry King.
Now I am doubly terrified.
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Ebola
Oct 21, 2014 8:00:49 GMT 2
Post by welle on Oct 21, 2014 8:00:49 GMT 2
The current tally of evacuations/cases outside of Africa: US: 2 US health care workers infected went to Emory in Atlanta-recovered. 1 US health care worker Dr Sacra was evacuated to Nebraska and has recovered 1 health care worker currently being treated at Emory in Atlanta-status unknown. 1 journalist being treated in Nebraska-condition stable 1 Liberian tourist in Dallas hospital-died 1 health care provider in Dallas infected during care for initial Dallas patient-condition stable 1 health care worker (2nd one in Dallas) infected during care for initial Dallas patient-admitted in Dallas, transferred to Emory-early stages of illness France:1 French nurse evacuated to France. Treated in Paris with japanese flu medication Faripiravir that is not approved yet except by special permit-discharged England: 1 British nurse flown to England-recovered. Germany: 1st Senegalese WHO health care worker hospitalized around Aug 27th in Germany- discharged 2nd Ugandan pediatrician infected in Sierra Leone being treated inFrankfurt-condition unkown. 3rd patient Sudanese UN worker flown to Leipzig from Liberia-died Spain: 1 priest flown to Spain and died shortly after arrival. 2nd priest flown to Spain from Sierra Leone, died. 1 Nurse taking care of one of the above patients in Madrid just contracted ebola. Still in hospital but said to be recovering and has tested negative on last round of tests. Norway:1 Norwegian doctor working for Doctors without Borders infected in Sierra Leone has been evacuated to Oslo-recovered So to sum it up 17 people evacuated or became ill outside of Africa. 4 deaths7 discharged6 being treated/status unknown3 secondary infections of health care workers
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vinnyd
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Ebola
Oct 22, 2014 0:39:28 GMT 2
Post by vinnyd on Oct 22, 2014 0:39:28 GMT 2
The US health care worker who was being treated at Emory and who did not want to be publicly identified has recovered and been discharged, according to what I heard on the radio this morning. So that's 8 discharged, 5 being treated.
Thanks for the summary.
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Ebola
Oct 22, 2014 3:08:18 GMT 2
Post by Scrubb on Oct 22, 2014 3:08:18 GMT 2
An interview I heard today - wish I remembered who the guy being interviewed was - seemed pretty confident that in a year, the vaccine would be widely available and that would be the end of Ebola having any real impact anywhere in the world.
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Post by shrjeff on Oct 22, 2014 4:48:13 GMT 2
let's see if the antivaccination nuts will refuse this one, too...
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Ebola
Oct 22, 2014 8:53:00 GMT 2
Post by welle on Oct 22, 2014 8:53:00 GMT 2
let's see if the antivaccination nuts will refuse this one, too...
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