the bus murders here this morning

[gnd]

So, what do you do to defend yourself/others if you´re on a bus, with only a few others (3 plus the one the one who killed them, with a knife). Anything?

(This morning about 5.30 am on a route from Oslo to Bergen, an asylum seeker who´d just been turned down about to be deported, walked out of the small asylum place, got on the bus, took out a knife and killed everyone. The driver, a 19 yr old girl, and a Swedish guy. In 2003 something similar happened, again with an asylum seeker who´d just been turned down, also walked out of the asylum area. Neither person in hindsight, had appeared to show signs of "being capable of" this, whatever that means).

So, huge bus, middle of the night (it was dark), snowing, deserted route nothing much there, only you, the driver, the one with the knife, and one other person.

What is there to do in that situation to prevent yourself, others from being killed, especially when the one with the knife has nothing to lose, and alot to gain (gets to stay in country for killing, to stand trial).

[outside cat @wino]

You had better be well trained to take a fist to a knife fight and likewise a knife to a gun fight.....that is an absolute tragedy. In my experience when delivering bad news to detainees we always made sure we had numbers at the door and into custody strait away (providing the judicial process supported it) Appeals are conducted from being in custody not free and on the street.

[lumi]

Wow, that is so tragic. In that instance I am not sure if I would be frozen with fright or the adrenaline would take over and I'd step in and try to fight the attacker off or try to run away. You'd think that if the 3 passengers worked together they would have a decent chance at "winning" or overpowering the attacker but I guess you would need all passengers to step in and fight the attacker at the same time. Perhaps an individuals best chance of survival in this instance would be to jump out the window and try to run away with their cell phone and call police, while finding a good hiding spot or continue to run away. But that doesn't help the person who is initially attacked and if it were me I'd of course want others t step in and help.

[Grecian]

Another good reason for me to vote UKIP!

eff off back to your own shitty Country you scrounging bastards...

"Luck heather?"...eff OFF!

[gnd]

hmmmm got a great idea from a tv show:

8 ball in sock

[Grecian]

That was from the Film 'Scum'...