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Post by Grecian on Feb 10, 2013 20:29:21 GMT 2
Why would anyone, unless they are Chinese and have no concept of how The West views your sad existance, 'welcome' in their County's New Year??
To me it is a day of Protest and not celebration....
China's Human Right's record is shocking - anywhere between 500 and 2,000 were murdered in Tiananmen Square in 1989...Was that really the same year that the Berlin Wall cam crumbling down?...
They hang people...
....and don't get me started on the fucking Rhino Horn trade...
"Rhino horn is made of keratin, which Western doctors say has no medicinal properties. But traditional healers in Vietnam and China use it in a range of remedies, including cancer treatments and hangover cures. Environmentalists say that in the past five years, growing incomes in the Far East have brought the purchase of crushed horn within reach of more and more people, despite the £35,000-per-kilo price."
"At the beginning of the 20th century there were 500,000 rhinos across Africa and Asia; in 1970 there were 70,000; today, there are fewer than 29,000 rhinos surviving in the wild."
Educate the Bastards - but certainly do not 'Celebrate' the Lunar New Year when you have absolutely no connection with the Country...
FFS!...Fucking Celine Dion travelled there and sung for the shite...
Sums up that Canadians will do anything for Money...She really should be culled...
Anyway, it was a day of Protest for me...
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Post by kerouac2 on Feb 10, 2013 22:52:33 GMT 2
I quite enjoyed the experience in Paris last year, mostly because I saw that anybody can be Chinese that day. It is not restricted to any ethnic group, so it is not at all exclusive. I'll be going to the parade in the main Chinatown again this year, but it won't be held until next Sunday. Here is what I saw last year: Chinese New Year in Paris |
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Post by Hedonista on Feb 10, 2013 22:53:10 GMT 2
Happy Year of the Trouser Snake matey, and I do have a connection to the country. But they do love Celine's Titanic theme there and I agree on that point at least.
Looking forward to some good Dim Sum when I get back there week after next. No Rhino horn for me though.
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Post by outside cat @wino on Feb 11, 2013 0:13:56 GMT 2
Only place you will see and hear firecrackers is the celebrations in China Town in the CBD of Melbourne I thought Celine Dion was chained to the stage in Las Vegas?
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Post by Tilly Star on Feb 11, 2013 9:19:33 GMT 2
We enjoyed celebrating it, my Chinese neice us staying with us and was very excited to share her traditions. As far as I am aware she has not abused anyone's human rights. She is a lovely girl actually.
How did you protest?
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Post by pepecura on Feb 11, 2013 10:53:11 GMT 2
Celine Dion is nuts...
We do not have any single thing about Chinese thing here, due to low population I guess...but if there was I am sure Turks would not mind to give empty looks to those and no join.. we have a history with them.
I would also enjoy to see or even attend any tradition if had a chance though...
But, Looking at the country I live in, a very bad history in terms of human rights similar to China may be...not very long ago (30 Years) masses (including my father!) got tortured and youngs were hung just because of their opposing in ideas...
Here are some statistics found in internet after the 1980 coup,
650 thousand taken into custody
230 thousand stood trial
517 were sentenced to death
50 were hung
299 died in jails
Papers could not publish for 300 days.
171 died of torture
39 tons of newspaper and magazine destructed
30 thousand left the country as a political refugee
73 given report of natural death
937 movie is restricted because found "objectionable"
and many more.....
My father also has been taken, I remember those fuckers coming into our house 3 in the morning and taking my father when I was a kid, even after 5 years he got found innocent in the court.
...he stayed in jail for around 9 months and got tortured, he never tells us the details of what they did to him but from his friends I heard very awful things...just because of leading a political group in his town, and them exposing their ideas. Even the court decided him innocent, till 2-3 years before he got in his file that he is wanted, and searched for...every time he went abroad he had trouble because of that record, any time he had something to do with government offices he had to deal with that...he managed it to delete just 2-3 years ago finally.
...and thinking of those all, yeah ... you are making a great point !
did I mention that Celinde Dion is nuts ?
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Post by Grecian on Feb 11, 2013 21:07:42 GMT 2
MrK..I am surprised at you...Apparently the Nuremberg Rallies were a good day out...(Imagine THAT for a photo opportunity!) ....You have to look beyond the 'Hype' and ask questions as to what YOU, as an individual, are celebrating...
I have no affinity, whatsoever, with China and have said my piece, above.
Hedon'? That Rhino Horn shit REALLY pi55es me off as I was watching David Attenborough's Africa series and then got all 'emotional' about what difference do I/Humans make in their Lives...and the only answer I could come up with is that I hope that the animals on this Earth supersede us and remain...to roam the planet as their own...They deserve it - Humans don't really...
E55? How old is your Chinese Niece?...(What does that actually mean?..Your sister's brother married a Chinese woman??..) Maybe show her some facts about China's Human Rights record when she's older?
I Protested by buying some noodles from Scumsburies and burning them in my Moob Bra - 35 grammes in each B Cup....
eff! And that was just 30 years ago, Peps?...Religious based or Political?...
Great post there, Peps...Hits home..
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Post by tzarine on Feb 11, 2013 21:39:50 GMT 2
tin,
we haven't even mentioned tibet.
saw some of cdion in china. she is nuts.
what other dictators does she perform for?
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Post by Tilly Star on Feb 11, 2013 21:56:01 GMT 2
Yes, he's live in China for the last 25 years. She is 23 and well aware of China's human rights record as the abuses effected her own family, it doesn't mean she isn't interested in Chinese traditions older than the current regime.
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Post by Grecian on Feb 11, 2013 21:56:44 GMT 2
'rine
You a mouse
once?
maybe a cheese.
Maybe a cheese mouse?
Be funny if you were a mouse that smelt of cheese.
Tibet is yet another reason why I should hate China
Thank you for reminding me.
Mugabe in Zim
Mugabe in Uganda
Mugabe has a Duvet cover
She is Dion.
Not to be confused with Dio
the heavy Rock Band.
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Post by Grecian on Feb 11, 2013 22:00:16 GMT 2
What's his relationship with you again, e55?...Please explain the whole lot as I never have got my head around even the 'Cousin' thing...
The 'Current regime' never seems to change though?...
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Post by Tilly Star on Feb 11, 2013 22:02:04 GMT 2
What cousin thing? My brother's daughter = my niece...not to hard to get?
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Post by Grecian on Feb 12, 2013 0:17:39 GMT 2
OK...
So your Brother has sha55ed a Chinese Laydee and she has Sprogged out?....after accepting his Spunk?..
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Post by sprite on Feb 12, 2013 3:13:52 GMT 2
we had the chance to take part in village fireworks this weekend, and it would have been really cool, but we were soooo tired. we just lay in bed and listened to them for 30 minutes. it sounded like a really good show.
poor tinman. the chinese gov't is not CNY, and not all chinese are connected to teh gov't of china.
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Post by Tilly Star on Feb 12, 2013 9:32:33 GMT 2
Yes, TM. This is how reproduction usually works. 10/10.
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Post by pepecura on Feb 12, 2013 15:17:41 GMT 2
eff! And that was just 30 years ago, Peps?...Religious based or Political?...
Yes 30 years ago and %100 political.
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Post by ninchursanga on Feb 14, 2013 8:36:04 GMT 2
Shit, pepe I had no idea! Turkey btw. has now the highest number of imprisoned journalists, more than China and I believe that's in numbes not percentages. But I fail to produce some solid statistics right now. Excuse me but it's well past bed-time. Odd thing about Tibet that strikes me is how so often I hear the cry to "Free Tibet" and let the Dalai Lama back in, preferably as head of the state. Wouldn't that be a theocracy? Which is okay if it's the Dalai Lama but wrong if it's a Mullah?  |
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Post by Tilly Star on Feb 14, 2013 14:32:17 GMT 2
To me it is very different as Buddhism is not a religion in the way I see it, more of a philosophy or moral code. There isn't a belief in a supernatural 'God' and The Dali Lama wouldn't be ruling in that being's name (which is a Theocracy) and followers aren't told they must obey blindly or suffer terribly, rather to question always.
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Post by ninchursanga on Feb 14, 2013 17:30:49 GMT 2
I'm not sure, sometimes I think people have a too rosy picture of the Dalai Lama. Buddhists are also human beings and in the Dalai Lama's entourage there surely are some nasty ones who want the power. And surely there will be a big risk that minorities and non-Buddhists will be discriminated against.
Personally I find any state based on a religion with a single religious leader as head of the state problematic.
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Post by Grecian on Feb 15, 2013 21:59:43 GMT 2
"Turkey btw. has now the highest number of imprisoned journalists"?...
Care to back that up with some sort of link or stat'?...Maybe Journalists are banned from China?...Maybe they have so much hassle trying to get Visas/when they are in the Country then they don't bother going? .....Bit of a sweeping statement that.....
What is 'CNY', Sprite?...I hate Posters who think they will be so clever with that shite - like everyone should know?
My pet hate is people who say I'm flying from so and so a place to another place and JUST give the place 'names' by the airports!!!...eff me, I don't even know Heathrow's condensed name! Hth?....I know that LAX is Los Angeles, for some reason...
I'm a Humanist, by the way....
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Post by Hedonista on Feb 15, 2013 22:49:19 GMT 2
CNY means Chinese New Year, very common phrase and I only know that as I send so much of my time working out there. Not sure what Sprite means though.
Re airport abbreviations I also find them annoying but next week starting Monday I will be flying: FAO/LIS/LHR/MCT/KUL/MNL then the following week MNL/MFM/KUL/CGK/KUL/CMB/LHR/LGW/FAO
So work that out Geeks
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Post by Grecian on Feb 15, 2013 23:00:59 GMT 2
So why didn't s/he say Chinese New Year instaed of that abbreviation that got me started on Kunts that abbreviate Airport names??
RIGHT! With out Googling, I will go, the following:....
Faro to Lisbon to Hurrah! London Heathrow!....Manchester Central?...Kuala Lumpa...Manilla?
MCT is a reet Kant!....Something 'Central?...
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Post by ninchursanga on Feb 17, 2013 0:00:11 GMT 2
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Post by sprite on Feb 17, 2013 7:18:38 GMT 2
cny as hedonista.
thought obvious from context.
lazy typist.
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Post by Grecian on Feb 17, 2013 20:42:19 GMT 2
Yet another Political article about Journos being jailed in Turkey...OK! So Turkey are as bad as China?
Turkey doesn't celebrate a New Year so both are as bad?
Doesn't make them both as good...
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Post by ninchursanga on Feb 18, 2013 0:48:31 GMT 2
Eh? You asked for more info. Turkey is not as bad, but worse than China when it comes to imprisoned journalists. But then that's just one of the problems they have there....not to bad mouth Turkey, I love the country. Just makes me sad.
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Post by Hedonista on Feb 18, 2013 21:57:50 GMT 2
MCT is Muscat, where Baz arrives tomorrow and I fly through in the morning, sadly too early to meet them for a coffee. I'm currently at Heathrow.
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Post by Grecian on Feb 21, 2013 22:01:14 GMT 2
I thought that Muscat was a small rodent?....
"Turkey is not as bad, but worse than China when it comes to imprisoned journalists"....
Show me the stats for imprisioned Journos' in bloody China!!!
You really think that the Human Rights are worse in Turkey than China, Nin'??
If so, have a fucking lie down...
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Post by pepecura on Apr 12, 2013 11:50:27 GMT 2
To me it is very different as Buddhism is not a religion in the way I see it, more of a philosophy or moral code. There isn't a belief in a supernatural 'God' and The Dali Lama wouldn't be ruling in that being's name (which is a Theocracy) and followers aren't told they must obey blindly or suffer terribly, rather to question always. "It’s unrealistic to think that the future of humanity can be achieved only on the basis of prayer, what we need is to take action." Dalai Lama |
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Post by Grecian on Apr 12, 2013 20:48:39 GMT 2
Cracking Drag Up there, Peps! I wonder what made you post that?...
So, the Dalai Lama approved of Direct Action?...Like The Poll Tax Riots when Maggie was in power - just to keep it topical...
I think that Humanists are quite close to Buddists.....
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