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Post by tzarine on Jan 22, 2023 18:32:45 GMT 2
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Post by tzarine on Jan 22, 2023 23:23:31 GMT 2
when swat surrounded the van in torrance
that's where part of my fam lives
that mall where the standoff took place is near where i have eaten & shopped - del amo. so this is too close to home
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Post by sophie on Jan 23, 2023 0:54:09 GMT 2
How many more of these will happen before the US government stops easy access to guns made for war? I don’t usually comment as I’m not an American but past of my family is and this is too close to home also
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Post by tzarine on Jan 23, 2023 2:01:09 GMT 2
sophie
im glad you commented
the level of complacency is utterly frightening
is this how we live now?
afraid to go out? to celebrate holidays? to buy groceries?
just madness
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Post by slowcoach on Jan 23, 2023 10:35:47 GMT 2
According to Wikipedia:
Mass shootings since Monterey Park (21/22 Jan)
Baton Rouge (22 Jan, 0 dead, 12 Injured)
Brookhaven (22 Jan, 1 dead, 3 Injured)
Shreveport (22 Jan, 0 dead, 8 Injured)
Mass Shootings so far this year 38 in 22 days.
(Criteria for mass shooting differ, in all of the above at least 4 people were shot.)
Recorded for 2022: (735 mass shootings, 762 dead, 2902 wounded)
ETA: I apologise but there is no way to be polite about all this: I have previously observed that January is very much part of the off season. Main shooting season is (June - September)
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Post by auntieannie on Jan 23, 2023 22:27:38 GMT 2
You have all said it better than I could. Thoughts and Prayers just don't cut it. There are people who behave in a criminal fashion in terms of the access to guns made for war.
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Post by tzarine on Jan 23, 2023 22:51:08 GMT 2
i mean many of my friends hunt. they are totally respectful. they use the whole deer.
others believe in the 2nd amendment & never want the government to be the only ones to have guns.
but who needs Q@W#$%^&*()_+ automatic weapons?
tzar grew up shooting @ targets. we found his late dads guns.
we also have a huge problem w people not getting help for mental illness
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Post by Voy on Jan 23, 2023 23:46:25 GMT 2
I agreew ith tzarine... friends who hunt are responsible gun owners ( and users ).
And the 2nd Amendment "believers" have neglected to take in the rest of the line, "in well regulated militia".
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Post by tzarine on Jan 23, 2023 23:52:31 GMT 2
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Post by Netsuke on Jan 24, 2023 6:02:09 GMT 2
Here in Australia where the mentality and views of owning guns is quite different to those of Americans, guns are too easily and readily available in the USofA. If America had stricter gun laws, would every Tom, Dick and Harry be able to have one?
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Post by slowcoach on Jan 24, 2023 10:35:12 GMT 2
There is a trap here.
I know two related versions of the "other".
The first, or more common, is not particularly relevant in this context; it those others chosen as victims.
The second is relevant. It is the belief that the specific people committing the crimes (atrocities, assaults, murders), are other. We are nice, polite, caring, respectful, and they are other.
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Post by tzarine on Jan 24, 2023 16:23:33 GMT 2
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