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Post by tzarine on Feb 16, 2023 22:39:20 GMT 2
aqua blue
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Post by tzarine on Feb 16, 2023 22:39:52 GMT 2
forgot to buy milk dish detergent was too high will go to the other market
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Post by Voy on Feb 17, 2023 15:29:04 GMT 2
aqua blue ? tzarine... sometimes your minimalism is TOO minimal !
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Post by auntieannie on Feb 17, 2023 17:05:50 GMT 2
aqua blue ? tzarine... sometimes your minimalism is TOO minimal ! We were responding to Netsuke question about which tee shirt to wear that day... :-) I said apple green.... and tzarine aqua blue! (those were the choices).
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Post by tzarine on Feb 17, 2023 19:13:30 GMT 2
aqua blue ? tzarine... sometimes your minimalism is TOO minimal ! see annie you cant just walk in on pay as you wish fridays @ the whitney you have to book ruins the entire spontaneity of it, esp since i live in the neighbourhood & would often pop it
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Post by lumi on Feb 18, 2023 6:50:04 GMT 2
I often wonder what people pay at pay as you wish places. I think I'd prefer to know a menu price but I do like the concept. Do people try to be cheap and pay less than the same meal would cost of similar quality? Or do people pay more than a similar quality meal elsewhere as they don't wish to come across as being cheap/stingy? Or do people adjust the price they pay to reflect the exact quality of food and service they perceive to have received on that particular visit? 🤔
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Post by tzarine on Feb 18, 2023 8:36:11 GMT 2
well @ the new york museums, as little as possible bc frankly art should be accessible to all. as a resident i can pay what i wish @ the met. which would cost an out of towner $20 usd
there was an expose once which revealed that the wealthy would rent out rooms for their kids parties, cocktail parties & other activities & the author said that's why locals should pay a nickel
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Post by slowcoach on Feb 18, 2023 9:58:12 GMT 2
Non-performing arts and culture ought to be free.
But wherever there is a universal benefit there is often some prat suggesting that they themselves should't be subject to benefits. Benefits are for the poor not for those who can afford tp pay.
Some fail to realise that once the universal part is eroded it is a downhill slope and fewer and fewer will benefit.
It seems likely that some do realise this and that is why they do it, knowing that if they have to pay eventual I have to pay and then most and eventually all the wretched will have to pay, and that suits them well.
One shows solidarity by taking benefits that you could easily afford to pay for.
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Post by Voy on Feb 18, 2023 15:10:27 GMT 2
Non-performing arts and culture ought to be free. In theory this is just lovely, and I agree... but there are costs = that have to be paid. You can't just put up a museum, and fill it with art - and just let it sit there. No maintenance - of the building's interior or exterior, no care for the art, no security ... the question is - who should pay - and how?
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Post by tzarine on Feb 18, 2023 19:37:07 GMT 2
Non-performing arts and culture ought to be free. In theory this is just lovely, and I agree... but there are costs = that have to be paid. You can't just put up a museum, and fill it with art - and just let it sit there. No maintenance - of the building's interior or exterior, no care for the art, no security ... the question is - who should pay - and how? btwn the corporations & gift shop revenue & grants, theres plenty of cash to make all admission free the lauder family can support several museums alone how come dance & music cost so much in the states & are accessible to all in so many countries round the world? my first world problem need to replace this sheet forgot milk again
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Post by auntieannie on Feb 18, 2023 21:55:55 GMT 2
1st world problem is that I'm going to have to pay for a new copy of a book I bought at uni because I don't know where the copy I bought is. prolly lent it or someone borrowed it and I never got it back. grrr...
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Post by slowcoach on Feb 19, 2023 11:46:54 GMT 2
Non-performing arts and culture ought to be free. In theory this is just lovely, and I agree... but there are costs = that have to be paid. You can't just put up a museum, and fill it with art - and just let it sit there. No maintenance - of the building's interior or exterior, no care for the art, no security ... the question is - who should pay - and how? In the UK the government stumps up about £4.5bn/annum in sponsorship for 15 institutions: British Museum Museum of the Home Horniman Museum Imperial War Museums National Gallery National Museums Liverpool National Portrait Gallery Natural History Museum Royal Armouries Royal Museums Greenwich Science Museum Group Sir John Soane’s Museum Tate Gallery Group Victoria and Albert Museum The Wallace Collection These also raise money from merchandising, bequests, gifts in lieu of taxation, etc,. The Arts Council England distributes a further £0.5bn of which around £40m goes to museums and libraries.
I struggle with the implications of "should", it seems to imply a higher authority or arbiter, all I can say is that I think it wise and desirable to support such things from central government funds in preference to charging for access. FWIW The Arts Council primarily funds the performing arts.
ETA: A Correction The ÂŁ4.5bn figure is total funding, the government grant constitutes about 40% of that, so a real bargain.
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Post by Voy on Feb 19, 2023 15:56:15 GMT 2
I agree with all of you, the question was hypothetical, as I think that everywhere the sources listed above do pay. The public has already paid thru their taxes - and would scream if they went up... for everyone , not just the museum goers... it's a problem !
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Post by lumi on Feb 19, 2023 16:13:32 GMT 2
Total first world problem: I was feeling like buying myself a gift (I never just buy stuff for myself) and went online to see what options there were. I didn't quite see what I had hoped to find (some stuff I would love but didn't have an additional feature I was hoping for). So I didn't buy myself anything but instead got a gift for my son. Kind of expensive for a boy his age but I so think it is practical and he will love it.
The item I am talking about is a light that mimics sunset and sunrise, and has relaxing sounds you can listen to that also fade to nothing over the preset time period. Definitely a luxury item but I find this a good splurge.
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Post by tzarine on Feb 19, 2023 23:31:41 GMT 2
we also have the friendly corporations who fund a lot of our art thanks, uniqlo for MOMA pay what you wish
what about the sacklers who want their name @ every gallery & performance space after their oxy games/profits?
lumi hope you find something for yourself
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Post by slowcoach on Feb 20, 2023 7:58:24 GMT 2
I agree with all of you, the question was hypothetical, as I think that everywhere the sources listed above do pay. The public has already paid thru their taxes - and would scream if they went up... for everyone , not just the museum goers... it's a problem ! Sorry, I am not sure I understand at all. In particular: I am pretty sure that all of those listed have permanent collections that are free, or in the case of the Armouries at no additional charge (situated in the Tower of London), and things like the Cutty Sark. The public grants and subsidies go up, yearly for the most part.
We pay for public schooling whether we have zero kids or ten kids.
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Post by Voy on Feb 20, 2023 14:44:01 GMT 2
What I meant was that museums world wide ( I think ) are supported by the governments ( be they local or national ) thru taxes. That all over the world corporations donate to museums, as so wealthy people ( from genuine love of the arts or thru the desire to be thought art lovers with their names on the buildings or galleries, most of them make money from gift shops etc.... but many of them still ask for admission fees, and in this case the "what you will".
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Post by tzarine on Feb 20, 2023 20:06:40 GMT 2
dont forget tax breaks
also thank you, target for museum nights
im too lazy to paint my toes
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Post by tzarine on Feb 27, 2023 21:04:45 GMT 2
there is no tabasco sauce in the casa
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Post by tzarine on Apr 5, 2023 4:24:32 GMT 2
craving ranch dressing 2 stores were out of it
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Post by rikita on Apr 13, 2023 0:12:09 GMT 2
I often wonder what people pay at pay as you wish places. I think I'd prefer to know a menu price but I do like the concept. Do people try to be cheap and pay less than the same meal would cost of similar quality? Or do people pay more than a similar quality meal elsewhere as they don't wish to come across as being cheap/stingy? Or do people adjust the price they pay to reflect the exact quality of food and service they perceive to have received on that particular visit? 🤔 didn't even know pay as you wish places existed. but it sounds anxiety-inducing ... i'd probably end up paying more, and still worry that i paid too little.
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Post by auntieannie on Apr 13, 2023 7:55:24 GMT 2
oh, rikita! A girl after my own heart... am with you on the anxiety of the pay as you wish. I have experienced it in the UK when purchasing from book-cycle, a fab charity.
As for pay as you wish for food... I happen to have a tiny bit of understanding of pricing in restaurants. but paying more or less the same as you would in other eateries for the same type of meal is a good idea. Clue: the food itself is not what burdens restauranteurs the most...
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Post by tzarine on Apr 13, 2023 20:28:52 GMT 2
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Post by rikita on Apr 14, 2023 0:32:47 GMT 2
i guess making it possible for people who otherwise couldn't afford to eat out is good - i just still would never be sure what is a normal price in other restaurants ... well, but as i know of no such places here, i guess the question is only theoretical, anyway ...
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Post by sophie on May 26, 2023 17:44:38 GMT 2
I ordered a new car last August. I’m still waiting. If it doesn’t come fairly soon, I’m going to give up on it and buy my friend’s relatively new car which will be available when he gets his new car. One of these choices will leave me with more money in my wallet.
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Post by kuskiwi on May 27, 2023 2:33:00 GMT 2
Frustrating Sophie. That's a long delivery wait.
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Post by auntieannie on May 27, 2023 22:11:16 GMT 2
mosquito repellent e.o mix has to be diffused. already... we barely had a couple days of warmth.
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Post by Netsuke on May 28, 2023 1:42:20 GMT 2
I ordered a new car last August. I’m still waiting. If it doesn’t come fairly soon, I’m going to give up on it and buy my friend’s relatively new car which will be available when he gets his new car. One of these choices will leave me with more money in my wallet. That’s nine months ago. Gee, you could have a baby in that time!
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Post by auntieannie on May 28, 2023 22:53:58 GMT 2
I don't think Sophie wants any more babies!
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Post by sophie on May 29, 2023 2:46:04 GMT 2
Lol!! Annie is correct!
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