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Post by Voy on Oct 18, 2020 16:55:24 GMT 2
Salamgundy for a Middle-Dish at Supper -- from Hannah Glasse 1746. And I DO wish I could do the long "s"
In the top plate in the middle, which should stand higher than the rest, take a fine pickled-herring, bone it, take of the head and mince the reste fine; in the other plates round put the following things: in one pare a cucumber and cut it very thin; in another, apples pared and cut small; in another, an onion peeled and cut small; in another, two hard eggs chopped small, the whites in one and the yolks in another; pickled girkins cut small; in another celery cut small; in another, pickled red cabbage chopped fine; some water-cresse clean washed and picked, stick them all about and between every plate or saucer, and strew nasturtium-flowers about the cresses. You must have oil and vinegar, and lemon, to eat with it. If it is neatly set out, it will make a pretty figure in the middle of the table, or you may lay them in heaps in a dish: if you have not all the ingredients, and in the set out your plates or saucers with just what you fancy, and in the room of a pickled-herring you may mince anchovies.
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 18, 2020 19:21:58 GMT 2
That sounds an excellent dish. I wish I could make it. Alas, I don't know where to buy picked herrings (or even fresh herrings to pickle).
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Post by auntieannie on Oct 18, 2020 20:13:10 GMT 2
I thought you could buy pickled herring at IKEA? there's one almost on the nearest side to you from the bridge that leads to Wales.
edited to say I checked and yes, there's even several varieties. there's no need to go around the whole shop, the food shop is just outside the tills if I am not mistaken.
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 18, 2020 23:13:13 GMT 2
We have seen the Ikea on the outskirts of Bristol. We have passed it several times as we travelled along the M32. We have never worked out how to get to it once we are on the motorway. Anyway, it is a long way to go to get a fish.
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Post by shrjeff on Oct 19, 2020 5:38:49 GMT 2
wow! around here there is no lack of pickled herring - of various types... the supermarkets have prepackaged versions but in the markets (shuks) which are closed at the moment one can get them from barrels...
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Post by Netsuke on Oct 19, 2020 7:49:30 GMT 2
I've never met anyone in Australia who eats pickled herrings.
It doesn't sound inspiring.
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 19, 2020 10:44:56 GMT 2
Netsie, beware when you visit the Netherlands:
raw herring is an acquired taste and this silvery, slimy snack is definitely not for everyone. Nevertheless, it holds a special place in many Dutch ...
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Post by slowcoach on Oct 19, 2020 10:48:12 GMT 2
We used to get rollmops, and I am pretty sure that you still can. Check your local supermarkets.
I found that they were very good as a threat.
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Post by shrjeff on Oct 19, 2020 10:56:23 GMT 2
made an order at one of the supermarkets to be delivered tomorrow. here are the categories to choose from:
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 19, 2020 11:09:45 GMT 2
The recipe Voy quoted called for a whole pickled herring:
take a fine pickled-herring, bone it, take of the head and mince the reste fine
That I haven't seen in any shop near Chipping Sodbury.
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Post by slowcoach on Oct 19, 2020 11:22:30 GMT 2
You mean as in Hannah Glaʃse?
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Post by Voy on Oct 19, 2020 13:45:20 GMT 2
Hannah Glasse - wrote her cookbook and it turned out to be the UR cookbook for the 18thC -- basically all the others stole from her. And she had stolen it from... all the way back in to the 1600s..etc
I think most people made their own pickled herrings. They pickled everything ! as other than smoking or drying it was the only way to preserve foods... If you like I can give you her receipt for doing it !
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 19, 2020 18:50:35 GMT 2
They pickled everything ! as other than smoking or drying it was the only way to preserve foods... If you like I can give you her receipt for doing it ! Jeff may need the receipt to pickle his caviar. |
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Post by Netsuke on Oct 19, 2020 22:19:03 GMT 2
I’ve seen a couple of fellas who were pickled. One was quiet, the other loquacious.
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 20, 2020 10:12:38 GMT 2
I’ve seen a couple of fellas who were pickled. One was quiet, the other loquacious. Was the loquacious one a Sidneysider? |
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Post by Netsuke on Oct 20, 2020 21:49:54 GMT 2
I’ve seen a couple of fellas who were pickled. One was quiet, the other loquacious. Was the loquacious one a Sidneysider? Naturellment! |
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 20, 2020 23:16:43 GMT 2
Was the loquacious one a Sidneysider? Naturellment! We were staying in a friend's flat in London and I had gone out to get the morning paper. At the corner of the street I said good morning to a woman who replied in an Australian accent. We have a sister-in-law who lives in Adelaide so I foolishly asked if she came from there. In a flash she said: "Wash your mouth out. I come from Sydney." |
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 23, 2020 17:58:59 GMT 2
Having written that I couldn't find pickled herring in these parts... Waitrose stocked some today. Not whole pickled fish but fillets diced. I bought a jar. Some day next week (after we come back from my daughter) I'll make salmagundi. We still have nasturtium flowers in the garden.
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Post by Voy on Oct 23, 2020 23:55:58 GMT 2
I just found Annie's post with the link to Wiki -- the one above is clearly one of the versions it mentions - with all the ingredients laid out separately - although she doesn't mention the oil and vinegar..
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Post by Netsuke on Oct 30, 2020 10:32:37 GMT 2
We were staying in a friend's flat in London and I had gone out to get the morning paper. At the corner of the street I said good morning to a woman who replied in an Australian accent. We have a sister-in-law who lives in Adelaide so I foolishly asked if she came from there. In a flash she said: "Wash your mouth out. I come from Sydney." Dear Baz, As your Australian friend from Downunder, here is some useful information. 1. Sydneysiders THINK they're the best. 2. Melburnians KNOW they're the best. 3. Melburnians and Sydneysiders would only go to live in Adelaide if they were contemplating a future on a life support system. 4. Sydney has the best police money can buy. 5. AFL football AKA the footy outranks, outdoes, and outplays rugby. 6. Rugby is played by thugs with no necks. 7. South Australians are known as Crow eaters. 8. Western Australians are called Sandgropers. 9. Victorians are known as Mexicans. 10. Tasmanians are called Taswegians. 11. Queenslanders are Banana benders. 13. And people from New South Wales are called cockroaches. 14. Oh, and those from the N.T. are called Territorians. 15. Only in Adelaide will you find that disgusting thing known as a pie floater. HTH. Yours sincerely, Netsuke, second cousin once removed of Dame Edna, lifelong friend of Hoges and Strop. |
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Post by Baz Faz on Oct 30, 2020 11:26:53 GMT 2
Netsie, I was born in Durban. People from Goli (also known as Johannesburg) knew us as Banana Boys. When I was last there I saw a sign: Welcome to Durban. Now go home.
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Post by mockchoc on Nov 28, 2020 3:00:10 GMT 2
You can come visit us MrFaz. I just need the menu sorted first. I know what is for dessert.. my lemon tart. It's amazing.
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