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Post by tzarine on Mar 14, 2017 22:46:14 GMT 2
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Post by shrjeff on Mar 15, 2017 8:40:38 GMT 2
not surprised, tzarine... particularly as while u.s. citizens are now able to make individual trips - they still must meet the old criteria for purpose of trip... i also wonder if people are afraid to have it on their record with trump...
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Post by rikita on Mar 21, 2017 11:03:30 GMT 2
agree with ria though that sometimes it gets a bit annoying when people imply (not saying someone here did that, but it happens at times) that whatever they did before my time was "real" travel and now it is all just crowded and touristy (while of course with their "real travel" having paved the way for tourism) ... i am glad that travel is relatively cheap and easy these days, else i might not be able to do it - though we have to work on minimizing its negative impact on the environment at the same time ... sometimes i read stories about explorers or mountaineers in the 19th century and part of me thinks "i wish i could have done that" but then i remember, back then probably my place as a woman would have been home, and most likely i'd have been born in the wrong part of society anyway (and of course many of those mountaineers died on their tours).
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Post by Voy on Mar 21, 2017 15:40:29 GMT 2
If any of you guys ever come to Brunswick, Maine to visit me ( hint hint ) I will take you to the Adm Peary museum at Bowdoin College ( where he was a professor ) - amongst the other exhibits are the actual clothes he and Henson wore when they went to the North Pole .. how the hell they did it and survived is amazing. I mean, Gore-tex it ain;t !
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Post by slowcoach on Mar 21, 2017 17:48:40 GMT 2
This house is on a newish tourism hiking route, and it is reasonably popular, somehow I doubt that thew will spoil things for us or for themselves. On the other hand I couldn't say the converse is true.
The route winds though the countryside which is mostly dehesa, a type of woodland, and is not crossed by roads just the odd track, I guess you wouldn't want to get lost half way round an all day hike. So what do "we" do for tourism? Once away from the entrance and exit points for the hike, all the signs and wayposts met this fate, broken, defaced, moved and dumped.
Not so much ¡Bienvenido! as Foxtrot Oscar.
So if you think it is just visitors that spoil attractions you are dead wrong.
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Post by Netsuke on May 17, 2024 14:32:24 GMT 2
So many people travelled to foreign parts in their much younger days when those places were unspoilt and not overrun with tourists and every man and his donkey and bemoan how it’s all been ruined since the onset of the hoi polloi! Gone are the days when only the wealthy were the “beautiful people” and the “jet set” crowd. I do remember seeing pictures in mum’s magazines of snazzy dressed people in expensive attire, and aeroplanes.
With cut price air lines and cheap(er) tickets, flying is more affordable and people like me have the opportunity to visit far away places - places which I could only dream about when I was a child. How can attractions be “ruined” by tourism? It’s just no longer only for the super rich!
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Post by tzarine on May 17, 2024 17:09:01 GMT 2
like when asswholes turn sacred spots into "modelling shoots" selfie takers idiots who dont respect local customs
democracy in travel is wonderful but being a total twat is not
look @ cruise ports - good for economy? ultimately not so good for the people? venice is not trying to charge people for landing
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Post by Netsuke on May 18, 2024 2:14:43 GMT 2
Do most ordinary people turn places they visit into “modelling shoots” though? Yes, I admit to taking photos of places I visit, but I’d not call them “photo shoots”! I’m just very glad I had the opportunity for seeing something beautiful or amazing etc. I am grateful these opportunities were awarded me, I have met such amazing people and learnt of their lifestyles and cultures, many of which are very different from mine. I became much less narrow minded after seeing how the other half live - pardon the expression.
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Post by Baz Faz on May 18, 2024 13:46:41 GMT 2
I first went to Greece in 1957. It was a very different place then. On the train to Athens I met a couple of Greek army officers. They took me to dinner in Athens plus a couple of other officers. The next night I was passed on to 2 more officers for dinner. Same next night. And the next. Greek hospitality in those days meant you had to look after a guest (xeni) in your village/town/country. This became impossible when mass tourism took off. The Greeks invented the word touristi for the new situation.
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